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0:00:30.720,0:00:34.960 Okay so here's the situation: you have two different audio recordings, 0:00:34.960,0:00:40.240 one for each person who is part of an interview. So those are two separate audio files that we're 0:00:40.240,0:00:46.320 going to combine but we also want to add some background music and some other audio. So we're 0:00:46.320,0:00:51.520 going to look at where we can find some background music. My favorite spot is Free Music Archive. 0:00:53.520,0:00:58.080 There's a lot of different features in Free Music Archive that make it pretty easy to navigate. 0:00:58.080,0:01:01.920 One thing is they have the genres so you can look at just instrumental music 0:01:03.360,0:01:06.960 (for background music it's a good option). You can listen to any of the songs... 0:01:10.160,0:01:14.240 It is a little bit difficult to search through- you have to listen a lot. You can't really go 0:01:14.240,0:01:19.600 off the titles or the genres necessarily to find things that you like. So it is kind of a 0:01:20.240,0:01:25.840 time-consuming process. I already found a song that I'm going to use. I like this one... 0:01:28.320,0:01:32.560 For a little bit of intro music. You can download it straight from here but one 0:01:32.560,0:01:36.240 thing that's important to keep in mind is you will want to find out what the usage 0:01:36.240,0:01:41.440 rights are. And so not everything in Free Music Archive is going to be completely usable by you. 0:01:41.440,0:01:47.120 And I'll have more details about that in the comments, but in this case the license is a BY so 0:01:47.120,0:01:52.400 I have to give them attribution -- I have to say who this is by. And then NC so non-commercial and 0:01:52.400,0:01:57.840 since I'm not making any money off of this video, I don't, I'm okay I can use this as long as I give 0:01:58.560,0:02:04.800 Blue Dot Sessions attribution. And so what I'm going to do is go ahead and download this. And 0:02:04.800,0:02:10.160 so if I click on the download on a mac I will also have to right click and then save audio as. 0:02:13.920,0:02:15.280 (Wait for my slow computer) 0:02:21.440,0:02:29.440 I'm gonna go ahead and close that. I'm going back to the Creating Audio: Software page. So there's 0:02:29.440,0:02:34.800 Free Music Archive is a great spot for audio. There's other spots too: YouTube Audio Library 0:02:34.800,0:02:40.640 is a good one, searching Bandcamp, vide- Videvo, or I'm not sure you pronounce that -- they have 0:02:40.640,0:02:45.520 a few options you've got to make sure that you're restricting it to just free clips though. If you 0:02:45.520,0:02:50.720 want other kind of sounds like nature sounds -- I want to have some kind of ambient sounds. My 0:02:50.720,0:02:57.920 favorite is Sound Bible. Videvo also has some good clips but I'm going to show you about Sound Bible. 0:02:59.360,0:03:04.160 Sound Bible has things broken down by subjects so I can just click on this to see a bunch of 0:03:04.160,0:03:08.640 different animal sound options. Some of the more popular more recent ones are going to 0:03:08.640,0:03:13.760 show up on the sidebar here. There's new ones down here at the bottom. But I can just search, 0:03:13.760,0:03:16.800 and so what I want to do is I'm going to look... I want to look for something... 0:03:16.800,0:03:21.920 some sounds of someone going on a hike. And so again I can see license information right here. 0:03:22.880,0:03:26.400 Public domain means I don't have to give any attribution. I can do whatever I want with the 0:03:26.400,0:03:30.240 recording. I can make money off of it, I can change it, do whatever I want. So that's... 0:03:30.240,0:03:34.320 I always like to find public domain. I can listen to it right here: 0:03:36.360,0:03:41.440 And that seems pretty close to what I want. And so to download it. I just click on the title of it. 0:03:41.440,0:03:46.400 There's a .wav file that I can download or an .mp3. .wav is generally a more... 0:03:48.400,0:03:52.000 it's a format that's going to be usable in more different types of programs, 0:03:53.040,0:03:56.400 but generally speaking .wav and .mp3 should both be pretty good. I'm going to 0:03:56.400,0:04:02.160 grab the .wav file. So I've downloaded my hiking trail sound. I've downloaded my background music. 0:04:02.720,0:04:06.960 I already have the recordings of my audio. And so... 0:04:06.960,0:04:11.280 for the interview. So what I'm going to do next is I'm going to go ahead and open up Audacity. 0:04:11.840,0:04:19.200 It's free and open source so it's one that I recommend to folks. Audacity is pretty easy to use 0:04:19.200,0:04:22.560 there's a lot of features that we're not going to cover but for the things that we're going 0:04:22.560,0:04:27.680 to cover today... you can do mostly... you can learn how to do most of those pretty quickly. 0:04:27.680,0:04:31.600 Hopefully by the end of this video you'll have a good idea of how to do some of these things. 0:04:31.600,0:04:36.240 It might take a little bit of trying to get it down. But first, what we're going to do 0:04:36.240,0:04:41.840 is we're going to want to import our tracks -- our different audio tracks -- into our project. 0:04:42.480,0:04:47.680 And so we can do this just by opening the folder where they're located and then clicking on them 0:04:47.680,0:04:54.080 and dragging them into the Audacity workspace. You can see now they're all loaded. There's a separate 0:04:54.080,0:05:01.520 track for each different sound clip. So you can see each one is a different length. Each track is 0:05:01.520,0:05:06.560 also a stereo track in this case, so you can see there's a left and a right channel for each track. 0:05:07.600,0:05:11.760 So it looks like there's eight separate tracks. Depending upon the audio that you import you 0:05:11.760,0:05:18.000 might have stereo or you might have mono. Both are fine. Stereo simply means that there might 0:05:18.000,0:05:21.600 be a little bit different sound in the left hand channel than in the right hand channel. 0:05:22.160,0:05:28.720 And so sometimes that's beneficial, but if you just see one, um, one channel for each track, 0:05:28.720,0:05:33.280 that's fine -- no need to panic. And so we can play through and listen to it by hitting the 0:05:33.280,0:05:38.720 play button here: [audio playback with various elements playing at once, including narration: 0:05:38.720,0:05:41.760 "Hello everyone and welcome to my podcast. Today I have a really..."] 0:05:42.880,0:05:46.880 Right now we're hearing everything all together and it's kind of annoying. There's a lot of things 0:05:47.600,0:05:52.320 going on at the same time and so one thing I'm going to do is I'm going to start organizing. 0:05:52.320,0:05:57.200 You can see we have the titles of the tracks here on the side: and so here we have Tim 0:05:57.200,0:06:01.680 speaking. That's Tim's speaking part. And so I can move this up because that's the first thing 0:06:01.680,0:06:06.480 I'm going to really focus on. So I can move it up along the queue by clicking on that little 0:06:06.480,0:06:12.480 down arrow and moving it all the way to the top. And then you can see here I have Jim's 0:06:12.480,0:06:16.080 speaking part. And in the beginning he doesn't really say anything until he gets introduced 0:06:16.640,0:06:20.880 a little ways into the segment. And so him... I can kind of ignore that for now 0:06:21.840,0:06:26.160 and so I'm going to mute his track so I'm not going to be able to hear it as we play through. 0:06:26.160,0:06:29.840 So that's going to make things a little bit easier to focus on. But you can see here I have the 0:06:29.840,0:06:34.720 clap at the beginning that makes it so that we can sync it up later and we'll get into that a 0:06:34.720,0:06:40.720 little bit later. And so one thing that I want to talk about is being able to focus on the pieces 0:06:40.720,0:06:45.200 that you want to. And there's a couple different features in Audacity for you to control that. And 0:06:45.200,0:06:49.360 so if I want to just focus on these first two bits: the interviewer and the background music, 0:06:49.360,0:06:55.200 I can go ahead and mute the other tracks. So I've already muted the interviewee I can also mute that 0:06:55.760,0:07:00.880 outdoor sound, that ambient noise. There's another feature that also kind of enables 0:07:00.880,0:07:05.200 you to isolate one track at a time and so instead of muting individual tracks 0:07:05.200,0:07:09.920 I can choose the solo button. So now I have everything selected so I can hear it but when 0:07:09.920,0:07:14.400 I hit the solo button, I can only hear the one that I click the solo button on. And so 0:07:14.400,0:07:18.640 that really lets you focus on just that one track. It's kind of the opposite of the mute, 0:07:18.640,0:07:22.960 um but it's a very handy quick way to just isolate one track that you want to listen to 0:07:25.360,0:07:29.440 So another useful tool when you're dealing with the playback is being able to skip around on 0:07:29.440,0:07:32.800 different parts of the track. And so you can see if you just click on the timeline at the 0:07:32.800,0:07:38.800 top it'll move the playhead. But also you can use the spacebar to stop or play the track so if you 0:07:38.800,0:07:43.280 ever want to stop it, just hit the spacebar. And if you want to skip ahead, just go ahead and click 0:07:43.280,0:07:48.320 anywhere on the timeline. There are also a few different tools at your disposal. So right now, 0:07:48.320,0:07:53.280 I'm on the selection tool that's what's highlighted at the top there. And so when I 0:07:53.280,0:07:58.960 click and drag, I can select areas of the audio track. if I double click, I can select the entire 0:07:58.960,0:08:04.400 track. When I select anything and I hit the delete key it just automatically deletes that. If I hit 0:08:04.400,0:08:11.680 ctrl+z, it'll undo that. So I just delete and then ctrl+z. Another useful tool for controlling the 0:08:11.680,0:08:18.000 volume really precisely is the envelope tool. And so here I'm going to click a couple dots 0:08:18.000,0:08:22.320 and those are just points where I'm going to change the levels. And so here you can see I 0:08:22.320,0:08:27.200 have two different points at the beginning. It starts at full volume and then it tapers down to 0:08:27.200,0:08:32.720 be a little bit quieter. And I can just control that by clicking and dragging the mouse. And so 0:08:32.720,0:08:37.840 this is this will be nice, the music will start in loud in the podcast and then as the person starts 0:08:37.840,0:08:44.000 talking it'll get a little bit quieter. And so I can kind of shift the placement of where the 0:08:44.000,0:08:48.880 person starts talking to match up with this fade out -- or fade down, rather. 0:08:49.680,0:08:53.920 The next tool we're going to look at is the time shift tool. This little double arrow here. And so 0:08:53.920,0:09:00.160 this will allow us to place the speaker so that right when they start talking right at the point 0:09:00.160,0:09:05.920 where the volume of the music starts going down. And so here we can just visually line those up and 0:09:05.920,0:09:09.760 then listen: [audio playback of the background music and narrator: "Hello everyone and welcome 0:09:09.760,0:09:15.520 to my podcast. Today I have a really exciting interview with one of my close friends..."] And 0:09:15.520,0:09:21.200 really this is a process of listening and kind of just being able to tell by ear whether or not the 0:09:21.200,0:09:26.000 levels are going to be sufficient. So is the music quiet enough so that I can hear the speaker? Do I 0:09:26.000,0:09:30.240 want to tweak it a little bit? And in this case I do I want to. I want it a little bit quieter 0:09:30.240,0:09:35.840 and depending upon your setup and your track sometimes getting it down to get really low can 0:09:35.840,0:09:42.560 be tricky. And so you're going to want to change the size of how the tracks are displayed. So you 0:09:42.560,0:09:46.320 can just drag the bottom part of the track itself and then it gives you a little more 0:09:46.320,0:09:49.280 granular precision: [audio playback of background music and narrator: "a really exciting interview 0:09:49.280,0:09:55.040 with one of my close friends. You know, last week..."] And then it's really just a matter of 0:09:55.040,0:09:57.520 making little micro adjustments. [audio playback of background music and narrator: "really exciting 0:09:57.520,0:10:02.240 interview with one of my close friends..."] To try to see what you do or don't like, you know, 0:10:02.240,0:10:07.120 what is acceptable. Is this loud enough? Is it too loud? Can I hear the music at all anymore? 0:10:07.120,0:10:10.320 You don't want the music so quiet that it's inaudible or that it's distracting because 0:10:10.320,0:10:13.600 people are trying to figure out what's going on but you don't want it to be drowning out 0:10:13.600,0:10:17.840 the narration. So now we're just going to listen to the entire beginning sequence: 0:10:17.840,0:10:22.720 [audio playback of background music and narrator: 0:10:22.720,0:10:26.000 "Hello everyone and welcome to my pod...] I'm pretty happy with that! 0:10:27.040,0:10:30.800 Okay so now I have my levels pretty much how I want them. I still have this kind of 0:10:30.800,0:10:34.480 annoying clap in the very beginning which we're gonna... we're still gonna use to sync up later, 0:10:34.480,0:10:37.920 so I'm not gonna get rid of that yet. But something to keep in mind is, um, 0:10:37.920,0:10:42.240 just kind of making sure that you tweak everything so that it's set up to start playing exactly when 0:10:42.240,0:10:47.440 you want it to. And speaking of that, I have this track of somebody hiking. It's just ambient 0:10:47.440,0:10:52.160 noise of them hiking and in the introduction the interviewer talks about hiking so I want to line 0:10:52.160,0:10:55.360 those up so they happen at the same time. [audio playback of background music and narrator: "You 0:10:55.360,0:11:00.640 know last week I was out on a hike walking..."] And so I'm going to play it back until I hear 0:11:00.640,0:11:03.200 that point where it says "hiking" [audio playback of background music and narrator: "walking through 0:11:03.200,0:11:07.760 the forest.."] I'm going to make a note of where that happens on the timeline, right. So I want 0:11:07.760,0:11:11.760 to [audio playback cuts in and out periodically] shift I'm going to use the time shift tool to move 0:11:11.760,0:11:16.720 that hiking sound right at that same point, about 15 seconds. Okay so I'm gonna have to switch from 0:11:16.720,0:11:22.560 the envelope tool to the time shift tool. And you can see I have this little "No" icon. So the 0:11:23.200,0:11:27.840 mouse cursor is a little "No" symbol that means that I can't use it on any of these. 0:11:28.960,0:11:34.160 That's because I didn't have my track stopped. I had it paused instead of stopped. Once it's 0:11:34.160,0:11:41.200 stopped, then I can shift this to where I want it to be. And since I have track one way up high and 0:11:41.200,0:11:45.760 track three pretty far down one thing I can do is just make track two a little bit more narrow, 0:11:45.760,0:11:50.240 or I can move track three all the way up which is what I prefer to do. I like to see them side by 0:11:50.240,0:11:54.640 side. There's no real difference in whether... in the order of the tracks. They all will sound the 0:11:54.640,0:11:58.369 same, so it's really just whatever your workflow preference is. [audio playback of background 0:11:58.369,0:12:02.000 music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...you know last week I was out on a hike walking through 0:12:02.000,0:12:08.480 the forest enjoying the sun..."] Just try to get that exactly where I want it to be so it matches 0:12:08.480,0:12:12.320 up with the narration -- so it goes along with what the listener is going to be listening to. 0:12:13.680,0:12:17.440 And I'm going to go back to the selection tool because now I want to select this track. 0:12:17.440,0:12:20.960 The background noise is a little too loud so I'm going to just lower that. 0:12:20.960,0:12:24.320 And instead of using the envelope tool I'm going to use an effect. So there's a whole 0:12:24.320,0:12:27.760 wide range of effects. There's a few things I want to do: maybe fade in, fade out... 0:12:28.640,0:12:34.000 but just the overall volume, I'm going to play with the amplify tool. Amplify will let me either 0:12:34.000,0:12:39.200 boost or reduce the volume for that track. So in this case I'm just going to choose... 0:12:40.080,0:12:45.520 the amplification: I'm going to go negative 10 decibels. That's a pretty significant drop in 0:12:45.520,0:12:46.720 volume: [audio playback of background music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...in the air and 0:12:46.720,0:12:53.120 the birds in the trees feeling the ground beneath the soles of my feet..."] So I'm pretty happy here 0:12:53.120,0:12:58.800 with the volume of the background noise but I noticed that the speaker gets quieter a little 0:12:58.800,0:13:02.960 ways into it. So they started off talking a little bit louder and then they got quieter once it went 0:13:02.960,0:13:04.480 underway: [audio playback of background music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...ground beneath 0:13:04.480,0:13:09.280 the soles of my feet I thought of one..."] And so it's really kind of just battling against 0:13:09.280,0:13:13.120 that background noise. So I don't want to reduce the background noise too far because then we won't 0:13:13.120,0:13:17.440 be able to hear it so instead what I'm going to do is I'm going to try to to bring up the level 0:13:18.160,0:13:24.160 of the narration. And so here we can see there's some low lows and some high peaks. And so I'm 0:13:24.160,0:13:27.520 going to use a tool called the compressor which is going to kind of even all those out. So all 0:13:27.520,0:13:30.880 the peaks will be about the same level. I'm just going to go with the presets I'm 0:13:30.880,0:13:35.920 not going to change anything just click "OK." And now you can see those peaks -- those high 0:13:35.920,0:13:40.080 peaks are all pretty much matched. There's a little more uniformity across the middle there 0:13:40.080,0:13:43.200 as well: [audio playback of background music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...feeling the ground 0:13:43.200,0:13:47.840 beneath the soles of my feet I thought of one person who's introduced me to so many wonderful 0:13:47.840,0:13:52.560 spots..."] And that's quite a bit better. I like the levels quite a bit more but I can use the 0:13:52.560,0:13:58.320 amplify tool to give it just a little bit more of a boost so now that it's more uniform: bring 0:13:58.320,0:14:00.320 those peaks up a little bit more. [audio playback of background music, narrator, and hiking sound: 0:14:00.320,0:14:04.320 "...feet I thought of one person who's introduced me to so many wonderful spots..."] 0:14:04.960,0:14:09.200 And that is pretty close. That sounds really good I can still hear the background quite well 0:14:09.200,0:14:13.120 as well as the narration. But now I want to kind of tweak the background so that 0:14:13.120,0:14:17.040 really matches up to what the narrator is saying. So I want it to end right where 0:14:17.040,0:14:22.880 the narrator ends I want it to fade in so it doesn't have a sharp starting point and I want 0:14:22.880,0:14:27.280 it to fade out so it doesn't have a sharp ending point. And so I'm going to use those two tools. 0:14:29.040,0:14:33.840 But one thing I haven't done yet is make sure that it's the length that I want it to. So I have it 0:14:33.840,0:14:37.360 starting where I want it to start but I haven't checked to see if it's going to end where I want 0:14:37.360,0:14:41.280 it to end, right? And that's pretty important -- we don't want the background noise to be going on 0:14:42.080,0:14:45.280 when we've shifted to a different topic. So let's listen to that 0:14:45.280,0:14:47.280 again: [audio playback of background music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...one person who's 0:14:47.280,0:14:53.120 introduced me to so many wonderful spots and he's here in the studio today to talk to me about..."] 0:14:53.120,0:14:57.040 Okay and so now when we're talking about the person coming into the studio 0:14:57.040,0:15:02.240 that's where we know we want that background noise to end. Now we only want that imagery to be when 0:15:02.240,0:15:07.040 we're out on hike once we come back to the studio we're going to get rid of that background sound so 0:15:07.040,0:15:11.360 that people understand we're back in the studio. So what I'm going to do now is just delete the 0:15:11.360,0:15:16.640 last part right so I'll find the spot where I want to end. Select it all and then just hit the delete 0:15:16.640,0:15:22.400 key. It's going to get rid of that last bit. And so now, though, I've lost my fade out so I'm going 0:15:22.400,0:15:26.209 to go ahead and select the end of it again and do my fade out effect. [audio playback of background 0:15:26.209,0:15:30.320 music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...and so he's here in the studio today to talk to me about 0:15:30.320,0:15:36.160 how he started his business sharing wonderful areas like this and a little insight..."] And 0:15:36.160,0:15:39.840 that's a pretty perfect ending spot right there that I'm pretty happy with where that ends off. 0:15:41.120,0:15:45.440 However, there's one other thing that I want to kind of tweak. So I've got three sounds competing 0:15:45.440,0:15:46.880 here, I've got: [audio playback of background music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...the 0:15:46.880,0:15:51.120 ground beneath the soles of my feet. I thought of one person who's introduced me just..."] I've 0:15:51.120,0:15:55.520 got the background music, the hiking, and the narration. And it's a little bit much. That can, 0:15:55.520,0:15:59.600 you know, depending on your personal preferences that can be fine but me, personally, I want to 0:15:59.600,0:16:04.000 really just go on this hike I want this hike to be the only thing that the listener is thinking 0:16:04.000,0:16:10.320 about. So I'm going to use my envelope tool again on the music and I'm going to totally fade it down 0:16:10.320,0:16:14.800 all the way so we can't hear it. And again you can just kind of tweak, play around, 0:16:14.800,0:16:19.440 with that envelope tool and move those dots around. Get the right amount of fade in, 0:16:19.440,0:16:20.880 fade out there. [audio playback of background music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...and the 0:16:20.880,0:16:26.320 trees. Feeling the ground beneath the soles of my feet, I thought of one person who's introduced me 0:16:26.320,0:16:30.400 to so many won..."] And now that has quite a different feel, right? I really like that: 0:16:30.400,0:16:35.360 no sound, no music, at all. Nothing other than person talking and the hike. And it really kind 0:16:35.360,0:16:40.640 of takes the listener out of the studio onto the trail and that's kind of what I'm hoping for in 0:16:40.640,0:16:46.160 that moment. But I want to make sure that there's no music at all, so I'm going to solo that track 0:16:46.160,0:16:49.840 and then listen to it again and make sure that there's no sound at all. 0:16:53.920,0:16:58.400 Sure enough it's perfectly quiet so I'm pretty happy with that. And so now I'm going to listen 0:16:58.400,0:17:01.959 to it all again together here, let's see: [audio playback of background music, narrator, and hiking 0:17:01.959,0:17:06.800 sound: "...and he's here in the studio today to talk to me about how he started his business, 0:17:06.800,0:17:12.400 sharing wonderful areas like this and a little insight into what he does on day to day. 0:17:13.280,0:17:19.520 Jim, welcome to the podcast!"] And so now we have it fading out of the trail back into the 0:17:19.520,0:17:26.000 music back into the studio. And then we need to sync up the interviewee with the interviewer. 0:17:26.000,0:17:30.160 So I'm going to move the order of my tracks again. I got Jim all the way up here at the top, 0:17:30.160,0:17:36.640 so Jim can be matched up with the interviewer. And so you can see here is when he comes in it's... 0:17:36.640,0:17:40.000 there's a bit of a lag from where it's supposed to be. And that's because at the beginning he, 0:17:41.040,0:17:44.800 uh, started recording a bunch of dead air at the beginning, which is totally fine -- that's better 0:17:44.800,0:17:49.040 than starting halfway in or something. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to sync up these 0:17:49.040,0:17:53.440 claps. And so I'm just going to use the time shift tool. Delete the beginning of his track. 0:17:55.200,0:17:59.840 Line up those two lines there. We can see the clap there is that line, that long vertical line, 0:18:00.560,0:18:06.320 just visually line those up. It can be a little bit easier to line those up if I use the zoom in 0:18:06.320,0:18:11.280 tool. So that's just a little magnifying glass and I just click on that spot. And you can see here 0:18:11.280,0:18:17.280 the claps are still a little bit off so I'm going to go ahead and use the time shift tool. Yeah, 0:18:17.280,0:18:22.960 there we go. And line those up just as perfectly as I can and then I'm going to play it back and 0:18:22.960,0:18:30.560 listen and see how closely those are synced. And that's pretty close. That's pretty perfect. You 0:18:30.560,0:18:34.160 know, you can kind of play around with this until you get it exactly how you want it to 0:18:34.160,0:18:39.200 be but for the most part you know you can be a few milliseconds off and it'll sound fine. It's 0:18:39.200,0:18:43.840 only if you can hear both people through one mic that it might cause some sort of problem. 0:18:43.840,0:18:48.720 But if they're in two different cities or, you know, two different rooms entirely, 0:18:48.720,0:18:50.891 um, being a little bit off isn't going to make a huge difference. [audio playback of background 0:18:50.891,0:18:53.600 music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...welcome to the podcast. (second speaker) Well thank 0:18:53.600,0:18:57.440 you for having me!"] So in this case I'm pretty happy with that. You know, you have the person 0:18:58.240,0:19:02.080 coming in at an appropriate amount of time after the interviewer asks them a question. 0:19:02.720,0:19:08.080 And so I like that. And one other thing, though, to think about is do I want the background music 0:19:08.080,0:19:15.280 playing throughout? So here I can say "sure, maybe I want the background music playing forever." 0:19:16.480,0:19:19.680 "Maybe I want to lower it a little bit." "Maybe I want to totally fade it out." 0:19:20.880,0:19:26.800 Maybe the background music is just for this kind of opening intro and so once I fade, once I get 0:19:26.800,0:19:32.080 into the interview itself then I want to fade the music out so we can just focus on the interview. 0:19:32.720,0:19:36.960 Again, it's kind of personal preference. I'm going to get rid of this. And so one thing I 0:19:36.960,0:19:41.280 can do is I could select that and I could delete it. I could just get rid of it entirely if I'm 0:19:41.280,0:19:46.080 not going to use it again. There's not really a whole... there's not a lot of drawbacks to that. 0:19:47.040,0:19:52.720 The only possible problem would be that maybe I want to come back to the music at the end. And so 0:19:52.720,0:19:59.600 I'm going to just use the envelope tool to just fade it out. And so as this, as Jim is starting 0:19:59.600,0:20:04.080 to talk I'm going to slowly fade it out. So when he says "thank you for having me" or whatever, 0:20:04.080,0:20:09.920 the music is just slowly fading out. And so then their discussion starts and there's no music, 0:20:09.920,0:20:16.160 there's no trail sounds, there's nothing else other than just quiet studio. And again you can 0:20:16.160,0:20:20.800 kind of tweak this. As you drag the little dot forward and backward along the timeline 0:20:21.920,0:20:27.920 it will change the length of that fade out. One thing you want to pay attention to, again, 0:20:27.920,0:20:32.880 is making sure that you're listening to it so that it is dead air. In this case we don't hear 0:20:32.880,0:20:33.600 anything: [audio playback of background music, narrator, and hiking sound: "...to 0:20:33.600,0:20:36.560 the podcast. (second speaker) Well thank you for having me!" 0:20:39.120,0:20:45.600 Totally dead, so that's that's great. And now you know, uh, obviously if this was a longer project, 0:20:45.600,0:20:52.560 a real project, these were just samples -- sample files -- um, we'd have a much longer interview. 0:20:52.560,0:20:58.880 But I'd have my intro nailed at this point and assuming that my two speakers... their levels are 0:20:58.880,0:21:04.320 right overall, which I can tweak with the amplify. Maybe for the interviewee, I'd want to compress 0:21:04.320,0:21:08.400 all of his audio as well. So I could double click and compress that and amplify it a little bit. 0:21:09.600,0:21:14.720 But otherwise, you know, that should remain pretty easy. Once their conversation starts I'm not going 0:21:14.720,0:21:18.960 to be tweaking all these different things so at this point I'm pretty close to just being done. 0:21:19.840,0:21:23.760 And since I just lowered the volume with the envelope tool of that background track I can 0:21:23.760,0:21:29.360 bring up that music again later. Maybe in between segments or at the end. Another thing though that 0:21:29.360,0:21:32.720 I want to cover real quick is how to kind of get rid of any mistakes. So let's just 0:21:32.720,0:21:37.920 pretend this middle section here in the intro is something I want to delete out. I can just select 0:21:37.920,0:21:43.120 it with the select tool, hit the delete key, delete it. And I can do the same for part of... 0:21:43.120,0:21:48.720 part of the segment in the middle or the whole ending part. I can also select... and so I'm 0:21:48.720,0:21:54.960 going to undo that, so I get all the full track back. I can also select part of it and 0:21:54.960,0:22:00.480 cut it out. And then I can move... move it to a different area, or move a different segment, 0:22:00.480,0:22:04.160 rather than just deleting it. When I delete it, it just automatically goes all back together. 0:22:04.720,0:22:09.280 Instead, with the cut tool -- this little scissors here -- I can cut it out and then 0:22:09.280,0:22:15.520 I have that saved to my clipboard. And then I can delete any part or I can move that cut piece to a 0:22:15.520,0:22:20.800 different section. So I'm going to delete the part that was the mistake move my timeline, move my 0:22:22.480,0:22:26.480 cursor to the point on the timeline where I want to then paste it in. And so now I have some dead 0:22:26.480,0:22:32.000 air in the middle there so in case my timings were important you know I didn't want the the 0:22:32.000,0:22:38.240 piece just to be deleted out with no dead air in between I can do that. The other thing, though, 0:22:38.240,0:22:42.800 I want to do is I want to zoom in to make sure there's no noise at all. So in this case there's 0:22:42.800,0:22:47.440 that little tiny sound wave so there's going to be a pop. So by zooming in I can just delete any 0:22:47.440,0:22:51.520 last little little vestige of it. As long as you have a really good flat line there that 0:22:51.520,0:22:55.520 means it's pretty much all quiet but another thing I might do is do a fade in or fade out 0:22:56.400,0:23:03.040 just to kind of reduce any pops that might occur from cutting something out right in the middle 0:23:05.120,0:23:10.720 And then here I can time shift the whole piece, there, so that the 0:23:10.720,0:23:15.760 interviewer and the interviewee are still lined up. So again, you know, you want to 0:23:15.760,0:23:19.440 think about the timings whenever you're deleting out... if you're cutting out a middle piece 0:23:20.320,0:23:24.720 because you made a mistake or for whatever reason, you want to make sure that doesn't throw off the 0:23:24.720,0:23:31.120 other timings with other people. And so that's the basics of Audacity! We looked at some of the 0:23:31.120,0:23:35.520 tools. We looked at some of the effects. There's certainly a lot more that you can do with Audacity 0:23:35.520,0:23:39.120 but these are some of the basics that can get you started in creating a podcast. 0:23:39.760,0:23:45.280 Check the notes: there's links to a lot of these different tools and to other tutorials. And 0:23:45.280,0:23:51.200 check out the creating audio guide, there's a lot more links as well, including one that's a video 0:23:51.200,0:23:59.280 tutorial on using Audacity in general. And if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Thanks!